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hello again and welcome. i'm fredricka whitfield. both the house and senate back in session while senator lindsey graham is working on a compromise or at least talking about a compromise that his colleagues, bipartisan colleagues are working on that could be a breakthrough. senate leadership still playing the blame game as well, and the last hour, senator graham spoke frankly about the standoff, and he believes an agreement can happen as soon as tonight, but he believes the president's
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staff is standing in the way. cnn's ryan nobles is there for us. ryan, really strong messages coming from senate leadership about being optimistic, but at the same time, not necessarily counting on any direction from the white house staff nor the president really. >> reporter: yeah, that's right. the sense that we're getting here on capitol hill that if a deal is going to be struck by the end of the night tonight to get the government back open monday morning, that it's going to come from senators and they have decided that the white house doesn't need to be involved in this stage of the negotiations and it's the senate's responsibility to come up with a plan, and, you know, throughout this process, fred, we have seen progress as though they are heading in the right direction, and then something derails the process. we saw 22 different senators, both republican and democrat emerge from a high stakes me meeting in susan collins' office
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from maine, and they emerged from that meeting hopeful. they believe they found some agreement in key areas and they essentially were going to go back to their leaders, tell them about the progress they made, and come back and meet more this afternoon. what's happening right now is they are in the offices of their leaders, telling them what they talked about, talking about the progress that they have made, and then finding out whether or not they can get buy-in from their leaders to get a proposal to the floor. we don't know what the outcomes are left. we know some of the democrats left the meeting with senate minority leader, chuck schumer and the senate is still huddling. this is an important stage in the negotiations, fred, because if they can get buy-in from leadership, then it will go to the rest of the senate. the 78 members that have not been involved in these conversations and see if they are willing to vote for something, so a little bit of progress right now.
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still a long way to go, and as of right now, the government remains shut down, fred. >> it seems like while lindsey graham was optimistic and confident about the inclusivity of the members of the senate, susan collins and lisa murkowski seem like they wanted to reserve some comment, but simply say that they were hopeful. susan collins says, we are trying to be helpful and move forward. >> reporter: yeah, and i think that's right, fred. i think that everybody is cautiously optimistic at this point because they have seen the process come off the rails so many times, and what we really don't know is the substance of that conversation. what areas did they agree on, you know, is it going to be a shorter continuing resolution where they vote on a budget by february 8th, and in between that time, they bring things like immigration reform to the floor, with the opioid crisis? disaster relief?
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or is it something different from that, and so much of that, and i believe those 22 senators who were in that room genuinely like each other, and are considered to be moderates. they trust each other, but now you have to bring that conversation out to the larger senate, and there is not a lot of trust when you get beyond that room, and between mitch mcconnell and chuck schumer. and then you have to involve the hardline members of the u.s. senate, the rand pauls and the ted cruzs on the republican side, and the more liberal members on the democratic side. many of whom considered running for president. the gillibrands, and the bookers. it's part of the reason we are in the conversation today. >> it's minute by minute, isn't it? ryan nobles, thank you so much on capitol hill. all right. so here's a question.
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twrs preside where is the president in all of this? some of those questions were asked on capitol hill. either they were silent about it, or they had sharp criticism about the president's staff. let's bring in cnn's white house correspondent, boris sanchez. he is at the white house, and, in fact, you know, boris, we heard people saying, it is incumbent upon them, the senate, to take the lead on this because they are not getting direction from the white house. >> reporter: that's right, fred. some really surprising remarks coming specifically from south just about an hour ago, he told reporters, and i quote, i am begging the white house to help us get to yes, saying that someone has to lead on this issue and saying that it will ultimately come down to the senate to congress people within the senate to come up with an agreement. it gives you the sense that there is sort of a vacuum of leadership. it is very much a criticism of
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president trump's involvement or lack thereof in this effort. so far today, we have got no confirmation from the white house that the president has been working the phones with lawmakers of either party as we did yesterday when we got a picture from the white house of president trump wearing his white make america great again hat. beyond all of that, it falls in line with what other congressional leaders have said about the president. you have majority leader mitch mcconnell yesterday saying that he doesn't know where president trump stands on immigration, and further, chuck schumer on friday saying that he was close to a deal with president trump when he left a white house meeting, but then it got yanked, and lindsey graham echoed that and he said they were partly yanked because of the doing of white house staff, specifically steven miller. he had criticism of miller at one point saying, miller's viewpoints were far out of
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mainstream and they could never get the senate's 60 votes in favor of his idea. he said miller had somewhat evolved on the issue of daca, and the legal status of these 800,000 or so d.r.e.a.m.ers, but he wanted to change it to legal immigration, what the white house is calling chain migration. that's the sponsorship of families legally. beyond all that, fred, there is this question of how involved will the president get in the only indication we have from the president on which direction he wants this to do is a tweet we got earlier in which he talked about invoking the nuclear option talking about changing senate rules to require 51 votes to get a budget passed as opposed to the typical 60. we heard from several republican senators now including mitch mcconnell and john thune that that will not be necessary. that's all we have heard so far
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today, fred. we did reach out about lindsey graham's comments, but we have yet to hear back. >> thank you so much. keep us posted when there is a response, if there is a response. boris sanchez, appreciate it. let's talk about this now. all these developments. ron brownstein is a cnn political analyst. we have our cnn historian, and our commanding general for the u.s. army. good to see all of you. a lot has transpired today. ron, you first. to hear lindsey graham to say, somebody has got to lead and then being very critical of white house staff and then singling out steven miller. take a listen to lindsey graham earlier today. >> i have talked with the president, and his heart is right on this issue. i think he has a good understanding of what will sell, and any time we have a proposal
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it is only yanked back by staff members. as long as steve miller is in charge of negotiation, we are going nowhere. he has been an outlier for years. there is a deal to be had. >> so both the criticism of the white house leadership, and at the same time, senator graham was trying to sound optimistic that it looks like senate leadership can come to terms, can get government up and running again even if it means a commitment about dealing with immigration later. >> there are a couple of points worth mentioning here. the first is both sides need an exit strategy here. if you look at the current polling it has been very consistent that more people are blaming donald trump and the republicans than the democrats. it's also pretty clear that a government shutdown is not a powerful enough lever to make a president do something he doesn't want to do. i covered the obama shutdown and
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the clinton shutdown, and in each case, republicans were unable to use that as a tool to get the president to do what they wanted him to do. we need to find a way to get out of this, and deal with the underlying issue of immigration. >> except what's confusing here is the president did say one thing a week ago about his willingness and then as you heard lindsey graham say, something changed two hours, you know, after a commitment from the president, and because of his white house staff. it's the government shutdown that sounds influential, but his staff. >> it isn't really only his staff. what steven miller reflects is the hardline side of the caucus in the house, and on immigration, and ultimately, i think if you are going to have a deal -- look at what's happening here. what's holding this up is not only the idea for trading the legal status for the daca stats. it's also for border security and legal immigration. it's a big step from where
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republicans were even proposed undocumented and legal immigration. that is the hardline part of the house. what steven miller's opposition reflects is in the end, paul ryan may have to -- any deal that may refuse them, they may have to pass without the support of the majority of the house. that is a rubicon that could be coming in the next few weeks. they will be getting this whirlpool here. >> if we can go to the floor now. tammy duckworth is a veteran, and she is being mindful of the military, its needs and being supportive. let's listen. >> this great nation. but in the meantime, let's at least take the sample comments in step that we all agree on. let us remove any possibility, military pay and even worse, military death benefits will be used and held hostage as political leverage.
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that would be unconable. to pay the military act, is the least we can do. we must continue working for as long as it takes to develop and pass a bipartisan solution to fund our government. however, if acting now if military pay and death benefits continue during our shutdown brings relief to one military family, that will beworth it. if it prevents a survivor from experien experiencing hurt while losing someone killed in action, then it will be worth pit. the time to act is now. this should not be a partisan issue. every member of congress supports paying our military personnel and ensuring death benefits are not delayed. so why delay now?
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there is no good reason. mr. president, that is why i would ask unanimous consent that the senate -- >> let me bring you in on that. what are if concerns not just of active duty military who have been receiving reassurances that their pay will continue, but vets whose families rely on that? >> this is a much bigger issue, and i'm listening to both sides of this. i respect senator duckworth greatly, but that's only part of she is attempting to take the military piece off the table as a shield saying, we have to pay our military. there are other things. as a commander who went through a shutdown, the mission will continue. they will eventually get paid when the appropriations come back. they will have challenges between then and now, because
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soldiers don't make a lot of money. but there are other issues involved in this, fred, but when you commanded in europe, i had 60,000 soldiers and 40,000 ci l civilians. they won't get back pay, and they support the military. you're talking about family members who won't be able to go to some dental and medical appointments for the entire time of the shutdown. the death benefits are important, and that ought to be taken off the table, but using the military as a shield on this, it's just unfathomable because it is a very small portion of getting congress to do their job, but yet everybody who doesn't understand how it affects the military is throwing that up there as an argument for either getting the budget passed or not getting the budget passed. it is important to pay soldiers. it is much more important to get the government running again and have it contribute -- the budget contribute to military actions not only for the soldiers, but everybody that contributes both in contracting, support,
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civilians, family members. as a commander who was on the ground when the last budget crisis hit, what i'll tell you, it causes unbelievable anxiety within our kmucommunities. everything is affected. it is hard to explain how much this will do to the military communities. family members, civilians and soldiers. a lot of questions going on out there. >> understandably, and tim, this is happening under the trump administration. how much of this shutdown, this consternation will be a reflection of his strength or weakness? >> well, it will depend on whether there is a deal. if there is a bipartisan deal that emerges from this, the president might be able to declare victory. the problem at the moment is the president has drawn a line. he issued a very, very strong statement when the shutdown started, which seemed to imply that he wasn't willing to deal at all. what has been very good today,
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and i think very healthy for the country is that a bipartisan group is talking. now, there may be a bipartisan senate agreement, but i'm not sure the house will buy it. one of the problems now is getting the hardline congressional republicans to yes. it's not simply donald trump, although it's primarily him, and steven miller is whispering in his ear. but don't forget that somebody in the white house called to steady the president so he would not accept the graham/durbin plan. it's also a house issue. i would like to add to what the general said. we should be concerned to the effect of our military families. let's not forget the effect of the civilian members of our government. the military keeps us strong abroad, and the civilians keep
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us strong at home. they were also furloughed and they will be affected very much tomorrow if this continues. >> thanks so much to all of you. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> all right. so how to republicans in congress see this, and is this amounting to another blame game? republican congressman don bacon discusses after the braerk. it's the phillips' lady!
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it's day two of a government shutdown, and lawmakers are back on capitol hill trying to come up with a deal. the house and senate have both reconvened. they are trying to come up with an agreement to end this
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shutdown. joining me right now, one of the lawmakers up on capitol hill, meeting and talking with his colleagues. republican congressman, don bacon of nebraska. first off, i would like you to listen to some of your colleagues from across the aisle talking about the shutdown this morning. >> we are in a minority position. the republicans control what comes to the floor in both the house and the senate. in the senate though, with the 60-vote margin, there is a need for bipartisanship. that's all we have asked for. let us work this out. >> i think he should, instead of throwing tweets from the white house, pull together the four leaders of the house and the senate on a bipartisan basis today and negotiate. >> then after hearing from, you know, senator lindsey graham earlier today who said there is a bipartisan -- or there was a bipartisan meeting of more than 20, you know, in the senate, and they all seem to be moving toward a direction of a possible proposal that would keep the government running, and maybe later on, deal with immigration.
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how optimistic does all of this sound to you that there is a n consensus among at least a handful of folks who say there needs to be a bipartisan movement towards resolution? >> two things. first, and thank you for having me on today. i'm grateful. first, this was the schumer shutdown. 93% of the democrats vote to shutdown. 91% of the republicans voted to keep it open, and that filibuster did need to have it stay open. >> everything that was said in the past 24 hours -- >> it's the tapes though. >> today is a new day, and we're listening to your colleagues both, you know, republicans and democrats that are saying a bipartisan effort, you know, would get this country somewhere. >> we do need to do that. >> okay. and lindsey graham earlier said today that the senate feels like it needs to, you know, take the
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bull by the horns, and because there isn't a whole lot of leadership coming from the white house, are you confident that perhaps if there is this proposal that the agreed upon in the senate, you know, possibly voted on tonight, that when it goes back to the house, that there may be some support on a measure to get the government running and later, dealing with immigration? >> when it comes to daca and immigration, this was tailor made for bipartisanship. people in the house and my district are constituents. they want to see more border security. they would like to see some reforms in immigration. we need more judges to do immigration, judicial hearings because they are undermanned. we don't want to deport daca, but don't want to fix it today, and then two years from now. this needs to be a balanced plan that reforms immigration, and secures the border, and we need to make sure that daca kids are
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no longer under threat of being deported. this is tailor made for bipartisanship. i have to be for senator graham's side there, but i think we can get it done. >> there are critics who say this was the president's doing for rescinding the executive order by the obama administration, you know, back in the fall, and now setting this march deadline. is it your feeling that the president should be more engaged in coming up with some sort of proposal, resolution to get the government running? are you confident that the president would be engaged? >> first of all, i think the president was right. we shouldn't be an executive order that drives daca policy. it should be congressional, and it should be legislative and law. you're saying, congress, come up with a compromise and fix this daca. i expect to have him and his team involved 37 i believe they have been. it's going to have to be a combined effort of the consecutive and legislative
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branch. this is a problem that is tailor-made for both sides coming together, securing the border and providing a long-term fix for daca. we can do it. >> when you heard from senator graham, he praised the president. he said he was really good a week ago. i'm quoting him now, and then he says, but his staff is unreliable, and that he specifically pointed to, you know, steven miller, adviser to the white house as interfering in the process and helping to influence the president who then changed his mind a couple hours after seeming to agree to a proposal. >> senator cotton and others have a different view of what happened there. i think this was good, and initially the president and the people that were negotiating had a framework. no deportation, and let's provide some wall. not a coast to coast wall, but where the border patrol wants
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it, and do reform to the lottery system, and family to a more merit-based system. i thought that was a good framework to work from, and the devil is in the details and all that, and i think the team came in, and it was not strong enough for the president. but that doesn't mean walk away. that means let's keep working this out, and it probably needed to be a little more conservative in a few areas there on the border and immigration, but that doesn't mean we're far apart. this doable in my view. >> do you think the american people should be hearing from the president? not via tweet or recorded messaging on a compliant line? but hearing from the president directly about this juncture, the government being shutdown, the why and the way out? >> they will. >> this weekend? >> i'm sure he will be talking more about it, but right now it is in our hands in congress in
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the senate and the house. first of all, we have to get the government running again. our military is not being paid. our first responders here that are federally funded and paid are not getting paid. our federal employees will not be getting paid. the most important thing to do that the democrats do in the senate is get the government funded again because that's job number one. we can always go to the stock, and we have five more weeks to do that, and it's not right to shut down government for a daca program that we have five more weeks to do. i think it was extortion putting a gun to the head of republicans saying, you have to deal with it. we had time to solve this problem, and we didn't need to shut down the government in the meantime. >> we are hearing from the white house, and we will not be hearing from them directly today. tomorrow potentially? a new day. we will see. thanks so much congressman. appreciate it. >> thank you. are democrats taking a huge gamble by standing firm in the wake of this government
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shutdown? democratic congresswoman maxine waters joins me next to weigh in.
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>> good to see you. >> perhaps you heard the senator lindsey graham earlier today who said he was very encouraged after meeting with about 20, you know, bipartisan colleagues in the senate saying he believes they can come up with a proposal or they have a proposal to get the government up and running again, but then addressing immigration later. are you equally hopeful about that? >> oh, i'm very hopeful and more than the fact that they have more people in conference. it's been basically led by women. i tell you i think that when the women decided that they were going to invite themselves to the party, and they started talking, i think they can get some people listening. collins has been known to be a good negotiator. she is, you know, a moderate republican, and i think that she sees things a little bit clearer than of course, many of those who around the president were causing the problems, and i'm
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very hopeful, fredricka. >> it was most by susan collins and lisa murkowski talking about the meeting. they were not willing to share too much about what they wanted to be hopeful about, but susan collins did say that, you know, they felt that they were trying to be helpful and it was important to try to help to move forward. however, senator lindsey graham went a bit further on that point about the white house staff saying that while the president was great a week ago, he seemed like he wanted to come to the table and agree with a proposal. lindsey graham, you know, pointed blame at adviser steven miller and said the staff is going to the opposite direction. do you largely blame the white house staff or perhaps even, you know, trump trying to please his base? >> well, you know, what's interesting is we have heard it from a democrat and a republican now. schumer, senator schumer thought that he had an agreement, a
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concept that they can move forward with, and he said he got a call from kelly who basically said, whatever you all agreed to in essence, that's not a deal. that's not something you can move forward with. that's not what we have agreed to, and then of course, lindsey saying the same thing, and identifying another person that's close to the president, miller, so i think there is a lot of truth to it, and i like the fact that mcconnell has said also at one point that they have to know what the president wants, but now i think they have moved from exactly that position, and again, with the women involved and with senator collins providing some leadership, i think that we have an opportunity to get something done. i know that they did not reveal exactly what was going on in that meeting this they were having, but you really shouldn't reveal it. when you are in negotiation, you
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can't come out and negotiate on television. i think she was very wise. >> are you gathering that the senators are now saying that they are going it alone because it's too confusing or perhaps there isn't enough leadership coming from the president or the white house? that they feel like just as charlie dent had said and mitch mcconnell, they are not sure where the president stands on some of these issues. >> yeah, i do have a sense that they have decided to move on. i think that mcconnell has been very patient, basically saying they were waiting on the president. they wanted, you know, the president to take the lead, et cetera, et cetera. but we're facing monday, and we're in a shutdown. and we have people who are, you know, not going to be able to go to work, who are not going to get paid, and that's a dangerous position for all of us to be in. and we should do everything that we can to lift this shutdown,
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and so i do think that mcconnell has decided that they have got to keep going, that they can't wait until the president decides what he wants to do. >> and according to some of my cnn colleages, some of my colleagues eyewitnessed senators mcconnell and schumer going off together and maybe even meeting. how encouraging would that be, and what would that say to you if that were the case? >> that's a good sign. don't forget, senator schumer tried to get the president to meet with him and all of the leadership including nancy pelosi on the house side, and that did not take place. the president did not grant them that meeting that he asked for, so the fact that mcconnell and schumer are getting together is a good sign. and the two of them are experienced legislators. they have been here before. they understand how government works.
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you don't have that kind of experience in the white house. the president does not have a clue about public policy and how it really works, and then those around him are basically new people who have not been involved in government, and so i will place a lot of confidence in the fact that there is a real opportunity for schumer and mcconnell to move this issue, come to some agreement and bring something out that i think most people can agree to. >> all right. well, potentially coming together with schumer and mcconnell after a day of rather blistering remarks about one another and the process. always a pleasure. thank you so much. >> let me just thank you because you have had a lot of women on today. you have been following the march, and you had leader pelosi on, and carolyn maloney and on and on. this is good for us, and it's good for the nation to see the women and the women involved and the thoughts that we have. so thank you, fredricka.
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all right. welcome back. if you were with us moments ago, we had maxine waters on, and she said women are taking the lead this weekend, whether it's at
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the women's marches that are coast to coast across the country this weekend or perhaps even in the u.s. senate. a meeting, a bipartisan meeting being led today by senators susan collins and lisa murkowski today trying to come to some resolution to get the government back up and running. and then just moments ago, illinois senator and iraq war veteran, tammy duckworth was on the floor imploring the government pay for military members as well as keeping benefits going for families. tammy duckworth is with me now. so good to see you, senator. this was an impassioned plea asking for assurances that pay continues. do you feel like you had a captive audience in do you believe you will be part of any potential resolution to get the u.s. government running again? >> well, unfortunately, the republican leadership objected
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to the pay our military act that i asked, and did this speech asked for during this shutdown. let's please make sure that military men and women get paid. and unfortunately, the republican leadership objected and it did not come out. i did not pass. >> do you go back to the drawing board and perhaps propose something else so that you get some really affirmation on that? >> well, we're going to continue to push for it. we introduced this act twice, and we're going to keep introducing it. this is something we fixed and solved when we had the shutdown in 2013, and before it even happened. we made sure our troops were paid, and i don't understand why the majority would make sure our troops that are paid this very moment, wouldn't receive their pay for defending our nation. >> we heard you expressed
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optimism why your colleagues, senator, today, about potentially having a proposal to getting things up and running, but at the same time, you have been, you know, very critical of the president, his involvement or lack thereof earlier. you even, being critical of the president, you know, saying that you will not be lek you actured what our military needs by a draft dodger and you say, i have bone spurs. if you cared about our military, you would stop baiting kim jong-un into war that could put troops and millions of innocent civilians in danger, and we heard that also from lindsey graham today. not really directed at the president, but really his white house staff. where are you on the president's involvement or lack thereof in where we are in this juncture? >> fredricka, i think there is a general just real frustration
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with the white house and with this president. this is truly the trump shutdown. he could stop this. i believe that the senate republican leadership looked to him, and if he would step forward and accept any deal or offer made, we could move beyond this. unfortunately, we can't move without the white house's approval, and senator schumer put a whole bunch of things on the table in the negotiations that really, you know, signified coming to the middle, and he would put the wall up on the table, and the president after agreeing, changes his mind. this is the second time he has done this, made an agreement, and backed away from it after some pretty substantial talks. we could fix this problem, but the president is really obstructing this, and keeping this from happen. this is why it's a trump shutdown. us moderate senators, we have been talking together. i was in the little clutch just talking and trying to figure out a way to get to the floor so we can pass this and get back on
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track and pass a budget for our nation. >> is it your feeling as a senator, lindsey graham said, members of the senate have to take the lead here because they are not getting very clear direction from the white house. is it your feeling that there is a resolution that is going to come from bipartisan effort from the u.s. senate? >> it is, but it's going to take the republican leadership allowing it to happen. after all, republicans control not just the white house, but the senate and the house of representatives as well. and so for example, if speaker ryan would indicate he would allow for an up or down floor vote on the graham bill on immigration reform, and on the d.r.e.a.m. act, and mitch mcconnell allowed it to come up, that would be something, but we can't do anything without the president's consensus. it's a trump shutdown, but it takes both the speaker of the house, speaker ryan and leader
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mcconnell coming forward, and right now, none of the republican leaders in any of the three components of government leadership are willing to let this move forward. us senators in the middle are sitting and talking, but, you know, we have got to be allowed to put this stuff on the floor. >> we'll leave it there. tammy duckworth, thank you so much for your time. we appreciate it, and we will be right back. (snap) achoo! (snap) achoo! achoo! (snap) (snap) achoo! achoo! feel a cold coming on? zicam cold remedy nasal swabs shorten colds with a snap, and reduce symptom severity by 45%. shorten your cold with a snap, with zicam. they appear out of nowhere. my secret visitors. hallucinations and delusions.
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you are in the cnn news room. i'm ana cabrera in new york. thank you for being with us. we have breaking news. right now, the united states government is not working, literally. there is no money, and for the second straight day, the wheels of the government are not turning. national parks are chained off. scores of government employees are told to stay home. even lady liberty herself turning away visitors today, the national park where she stands is closed. we heard that the statue will be open tomorrow operating on state money. the funding got cut off when the government shut down. can the senate get it started again? this is the second day of the shutdown. the plan is to vote after midnight. they will vote on at least temporarily funding the government for a few weeks, but now who is to


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